Comments for Hellenismos.us http://hellenismos.us/b The Hellenic Polytheist Website Fri, 13 Apr 2012 14:53:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 Comment on On Inclusive Polytheism by Vitani http://hellenismos.us/b/2008/04/on-inclusive-polytheism/comment-page-1/#comment-7766 Vitani Fri, 13 Apr 2012 14:53:56 +0000 http://hellenismos.us/?p=90#comment-7766 I hold a similar view, being a Hindu, that when you worship Zeus, you are really worshiping Indra :p (This is not a universal belief amongst Hindus, however). Good article, though! I hold a similar view, being a Hindu, that when you worship Zeus, you are really worshiping Indra :p (This is not a universal belief amongst Hindus, however). Good article, though!

]]> Comment on The Basics of Miasma and Purification by LostandDedicated http://hellenismos.us/b/2009/03/the-basics-of-miasma-and-purification/comment-page-1/#comment-7750 LostandDedicated Wed, 07 Mar 2012 03:00:43 +0000 http://hellenismos.us/b/?p=161#comment-7750 "As a rule, all organic fluids (blood, semen, menstrual fluids) and bodily excretions that cause you to be unclean then also causes Miasma." This is about my third time reading this article and every time I come upon the above statement I undergo some internal conflict. So let me pose my question to the readers of my comment. These bodily fluids that flow within all humans (well except menstrual fluids in men, there are exceptions) cause miasma when outside of the body but why not when they are contained within the body? If blood courses just under our skin, why then does a cut in the flesh offend the Gods? Are not the Gods Nature and the human experience itself? Fresh blood of a kill soaks into Gaia but I shall assume She doesn't send the hunter to Tarturus for spilling blood? Does this type of thought spawn from human insecurities about being in front of a God? Would not the hunter-god/dess or war god/dess be accustomed to blood? In the same manner that the god/dess of love and desire be accustomed to sexual intercourse and fluid thereof? Simply, the Gods created ALL of life so how would they be repulsed by organic fluids that They created? We don't stand before the god/dess of healing if we are healthy, so is it okay for some deities and not others? I see your example of the social gathering, yes, one would not dare show up in formal wear with blood or semen stains but communing with the Gods is not a social gathering. Communing should be a revelation (a right relationship with deity, Nature and others) so is not being human before a God a right relationship? “As a rule, all organic fluids (blood, semen, menstrual fluids) and bodily excretions that cause you to be unclean then also causes Miasma.”

This is about my third time reading this article and every time I come upon the above statement I undergo some internal conflict. So let me pose my question to the readers of my comment. These bodily fluids that flow within all humans (well except menstrual fluids in men, there are exceptions) cause miasma when outside of the body but why not when they are contained within the body? If blood courses just under our skin, why then does a cut in the flesh offend the Gods? Are not the Gods Nature and the human experience itself? Fresh blood of a kill soaks into Gaia but I shall assume She doesn’t send the hunter to Tarturus for spilling blood? Does this type of thought spawn from human insecurities about being in front of a God? Would not the hunter-god/dess or war god/dess be accustomed to blood? In the same manner that the god/dess of love and desire be accustomed to sexual intercourse and fluid thereof? Simply, the Gods created ALL of life so how would they be repulsed by organic fluids that They created? We don’t stand before the god/dess of healing if we are healthy, so is it okay for some deities and not others?

I see your example of the social gathering, yes, one would not dare show up in formal wear with blood or semen stains but communing with the Gods is not a social gathering. Communing should be a revelation (a right relationship with deity, Nature and others) so is not being human before a God a right relationship?

]]> Comment on Back to the Basics II: The Household Religion by EpicMom http://hellenismos.us/b/2009/04/back-to-the-basics-ii-the-household-religion/comment-page-1/#comment-7744 EpicMom Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:25:31 +0000 http://hellenismos.us/b/?p=168#comment-7744 We used to put libations and food offerings by an outdoor shrine so they could be left but now we live in an apartment block with no outside access where we can pour out libations or food offerings; I would like obviously to continue with offerings of food at meal times and libations at prayer times but what to we do with the food and drink after? It would be wrong to throw it away, wrong to eat/drink it but nowhere outside to put it. Please advise, thank you. We used to put libations and food offerings by an outdoor shrine so they could be left but now we live in an apartment block with no outside access where we can pour out libations or food offerings; I would like obviously to continue with offerings of food at meal times and libations at prayer times but what to we do with the food and drink after? It would be wrong to throw it away, wrong to eat/drink it but nowhere outside to put it. Please advise, thank you.

]]> Comment on You may be a Fluffy Bunny Hellenic Polytheist if… by Gaius Metellus http://hellenismos.us/b/2009/12/you-may-be-a-fluffy-bunny-hellenic-polytheist-if/comment-page-1/#comment-7734 Gaius Metellus Fri, 03 Feb 2012 13:43:09 +0000 http://hellenismos.us/b/?p=313#comment-7734 I may have LoL'd at a couple of these. Alot of the people getting offended need to lighten up. The people in this community are some of the best you will find. Heck they put up with me, and I'm a Roman! Hail Mars! :) I may have LoL’d at a couple of these. Alot of the people getting offended need to lighten up. The people in this community are some of the best you will find. Heck they put up with me, and I’m a Roman!

Hail Mars! :)

]]> Comment on Household and Family Religion: Discovering Everyday Spirituality by The importance of regular household worship « nhhellenist http://hellenismos.us/b/2008/04/household-and-family-religion-discovering-everyday-spirituality/comment-page-1/#comment-7727 The importance of regular household worship « nhhellenist Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:41:24 +0000 http://hellenismos.us/?p=92#comment-7727 [...] like?  I want to share a two link that give great information on this part of personal practice.  Hellenismos.us and Labrys.  It seems, that there is a good amount of flexibility in how household rites are [...] [...] like?  I want to share a two link that give great information on this part of personal practice.  Hellenismos.us and Labrys.  It seems, that there is a good amount of flexibility in how household rites are [...]

]]> Comment on Introducing Children to Hellenismos by Kaia http://hellenismos.us/b/2008/07/introducing-children-to-hellenismos/comment-page-1/#comment-7719 Kaia Mon, 09 Jan 2012 11:22:26 +0000 http://hellenismos.us/?p=121#comment-7719 Thank you for this article. I have a son 3 years, Alexander. He loves Apolo and I was thinking about how to introduce him to Hellenismos. Hugs! Thank you for this article. I have a son 3 years, Alexander. He loves Apolo and I was thinking about how to introduce him to Hellenismos. Hugs!

]]> Comment on You may be a Fluffy Bunny Hellenic Polytheist if… by Athena Weaver http://hellenismos.us/b/2009/12/you-may-be-a-fluffy-bunny-hellenic-polytheist-if/comment-page-1/#comment-7704 Athena Weaver Mon, 17 Oct 2011 22:25:10 +0000 http://hellenismos.us/b/?p=313#comment-7704 Great article and funny. Great article and funny.

]]> Comment on Back to the Basics II: The Household Religion by Athena Weaver http://hellenismos.us/b/2009/04/back-to-the-basics-ii-the-household-religion/comment-page-1/#comment-7703 Athena Weaver Mon, 17 Oct 2011 22:22:54 +0000 http://hellenismos.us/b/?p=168#comment-7703 I'm still getting the hang of household worship. I don't have a ton of space for a household altar because it's in my room. My mother, who fully supports my path, has me put it in my room so that the cat doesn't knock candles over and stuff. I really like this article about household worship but it seems like so much. I think that I'll continue to do things small and then when I don't have a cat anymore then I'll expand on it. I’m still getting the hang of household worship. I don’t have a ton of space for a household altar because it’s in my room. My mother, who fully supports my path, has me put it in my room so that the cat doesn’t knock candles over and stuff. I really like this article about household worship but it seems like so much. I think that I’ll continue to do things small and then when I don’t have a cat anymore then I’ll expand on it.

]]> Comment on Homophobia and Hellenismos by darklight http://hellenismos.us/b/2009/08/homophobia-and-hellenismos/comment-page-1/#comment-7689 darklight Wed, 31 Aug 2011 10:15:31 +0000 http://hellenismos.us/b/?p=291#comment-7689 Therapon wrote: "Plato wan’t too impressed with homosexuality and thought it a purely sensual and pleasure seeking persuit not worthy of the philosopher." That was probably due to his old age. But if you´re into that ideology, check out an an institution called "Catholic Church" - they´re the really experts in that area. "I think in the laws he suggested the death penalty for persistant homosexuals?" And for peristant heterosexuals, isn´t there any as well? Oh well... Therapon wrote:

“Plato wan’t too impressed with homosexuality and thought it a purely sensual and pleasure seeking persuit not worthy of the philosopher.”

That was probably due to his old age. But if you´re into that ideology, check out an an institution called “Catholic Church” – they´re the really experts in that area.

“I think in the laws he suggested the death penalty for persistant homosexuals?”

And for peristant heterosexuals, isn´t there any as well?

Oh well…

]]> Comment on You may be a Fluffy Bunny Hellenic Polytheist if… by tetsuki http://hellenismos.us/b/2009/12/you-may-be-a-fluffy-bunny-hellenic-polytheist-if/comment-page-1/#comment-7688 tetsuki Sun, 28 Aug 2011 10:46:38 +0000 http://hellenismos.us/b/?p=313#comment-7688 Some of these were cute, but most of them were, well not humorous. They come across conceited, and more Hellenic than thou. For example: "If you are convinced that Ancient Greece was a leftwing-environmentalist-feminist-homosexual-pacifist-socialist utopia" Of course anyone in their right mind wouldn't think this, but the Greeks did care for the earth, they were definitely less patriarchal than most societies, homosexuality wasn't exactly taboo (well, not completely). The only things on the list they weren't was a socialist utopia. "If you think your schizophrenia is really a higher state of consciousness and places you in communion with the Gods" This was completely uncalled for. Not only because you're putting someone down for something they cannot help, but you are, in one sentence, basically stating that there is no room for personal, subjective communion with the Gods. Who are you to say who's "higher state of consciousness" is legitimate or not? I do happen to have a sense of humor, but this article was brimming with bile at people who don't have your level of "expertise". I don't care who you are, yours is not the final word on anyone's spirituality, Hellene or otherwise. Some of these were cute, but most of them were, well not humorous. They come across conceited, and more Hellenic than thou. For example:

“If you are convinced that Ancient Greece was a leftwing-environmentalist-feminist-homosexual-pacifist-socialist utopia”

Of course anyone in their right mind wouldn’t think this, but the Greeks did care for the earth, they were definitely less patriarchal than most societies, homosexuality wasn’t exactly taboo (well, not completely). The only things on the list they weren’t was a socialist utopia.

“If you think your schizophrenia is really a higher state of consciousness and places you in communion with the Gods”

This was completely uncalled for. Not only because you’re putting someone down for something they cannot help, but you are, in one sentence, basically stating that there is no room for personal, subjective communion with the Gods. Who are you to say who’s “higher state of consciousness” is legitimate or not?

I do happen to have a sense of humor, but this article was brimming with bile at people who don’t have your level of “expertise”. I don’t care who you are, yours is not the final word on anyone’s spirituality, Hellene or otherwise.

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