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Re: Hellenismos - only for Greeks and descendants?
Reply #15 - 03/11/10 at 21:41:36

Timothy wrote on 03/11/10 at 13:14:05:

I would like to know the thinking behind it (things like what percentage Greek, or the notion of defining lineage used), but I'm not doing to push.

I'm speculating here but is there a chance the person who voted yes interpreted the question wrong?

Pehaps they thought the question was about people of other religions worshipping our Gods or mixing the worship of the Hellenic Gods with those of other religions?

Do you have to be a Hellenic Polytheist (Ethnikos Hellenistos [Greek]) to worship the Hellenic Gods?

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Antinous God Member Offline Nun d'aute soter isthi kai paionios, anax Apollon. Joined: 01/16/09 at 02:50:20 Posts: 1281 Dover Gender: Path: Hellenismos Zodiac sign: Mood:	Re: Hellenismos - only for Greeks and descendants? Reply #16 - 03/11/10 at 22:01:59 But of course it is their right to vote…and my right to ridicule.
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Therapon God Member Offline Orthopraxy! Joined: 11/25/08 at 16:44:47 Posts: 300 Cardiff UK Gender: Path: Hellenismos Zodiac sign: Mood:	Re: Hellenismos - only for Greeks and descendants? Reply #17 - 03/12/10 at 08:59:43 Antinous wrote on 03/11/10 at 22:01:59: But of course it is their right to vote…and my right to ridicule. Thats a rediculous right!
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greybat God Member Online I Know Nothing! Joined: 12/07/09 at 23:33:49 Posts: 349 Los Angeles Gender: Path: Hellenismos Zodiac sign: Mood:	Re: Hellenismos - only for Greeks and descendants? Reply #18 - 03/12/10 at 09:58:03 It might have been me. I always hit the wrong keys, and Spellchecker doesn't work on poll questions!
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Re: Hellenismos - only for Greeks and descendants?
Reply #19 - 03/23/10 at 00:25:54

We should remember that when the ancient world was turning to Christianity, many of the greatest defenders and practitioners of the Hellenism, that is the Platonic Philosophers, were not Greek themselves.
Plotinos and Hierokles were Egyptian, Iamblikhos, Porphurios and Damaskios were Syrian, and Emperior Julian, who was the last true Emperor who tried to re-establish Hellenism for the empire was Roman.
If it weren't for the writings and dedication of these individuals who chose to weather the storm, the primary source material we use today to reconstruct our religion might not exist.

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Re: Hellenismos - only for Greeks and descendants?
Reply #20 - 07/25/10 at 22:27:03

joyful_platonist has expressed perfectly my point of view; religions aren't a matter of geography or descent... you would be surprised how many people in Mediterranean countries follow the American Indian spirituality or the japanese Shintoism!
So, let's be less paranoid... If we've found this ancient path, and it is a meaningful and bright one, let's follow it because there is something deeper than physical countries and lineages.

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Seeker321 God Member Online I Love Hellenismos.us! Joined: 07/10/10 at 01:32:48 Posts: 486 Indian Orchard Gender: Path: Hellenismos Zodiac sign: Mood:	Re: Hellenismos - only for Greeks and descendants? Reply #21 - 07/26/10 at 05:47:00 I voted no. I think that the Greek Gods are open to anyone.
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AthenasKnight Senior Member Offline Religion. Philosophy. It's all Greek to me. Joined: 03/27/10 at 15:04:40 Posts: 155 Round Lake, Illinois Gender: Path: Hellenismos Zodiac sign:	Re: Hellenismos - only for Greeks and descendants? Reply #22 - 07/26/10 at 19:58:58 I vote no as well. Of course, any time that I see someone saying that only people of a certain background are allowed to follow a religion, it kind of rubs me the wrong way. If a religion is true, it should be true for anyone. Saying otherwise strikes me as using religion as an excuse for elitism.
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Re: Hellenismos - only for Greeks and descendants?
Reply #23 - 07/31/10 at 04:15:04

No, I don't think so. If memory serves me right, Alexander brought the gods to every country he conquered but also let them worship their own. And the gods themselves had their own cults and temples in cities all over the Mediterranean. I don't think the gods mind that I worship them despite being a young black American.

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Re: Hellenismos - only for Greeks and descendants?
Reply #24 - 08/01/10 at 11:09:29

The meaning of the word Hellenized comes from adopting Hellenic culture, language, alphabet, art, religion, mythology by other nations... If this happened during the antiquity ... I see no reason why it shouldn't be happening today. It's happening, we are the very example, and I am happy that it's happening...

Nobody can say they are 100% genetically Greek... (The nations of antiquity mixed a lot more than today) But spiritually... many of us can say it!

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Question: Hellenismos - only for Greeks and descendants?
Yes 1 (2.2%) No 45 (97.8%) Total votes: 46 « Created by: Adi_little_poet on: 03/08/10 at 12:58:33 »